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From: steve illumina | Posted: 7/30/2003 2:45:58 PM | Message Detail

"Which, of course, begs the question: Who would win, Tommy Vercetti vs. Master Chief?"

Very interesting comment here. And a match that I would honestly be curious to see. Icon vs Icon? Yah right. Xbox poster boy vs PS2 poster boy? Yep. Thats all it is. That is how this match would be labeled.

On the one side ya got Master Chief, whom is Xbox's only real recognizable original character, save Sam Fisher. But Splinter Cell does not have the time on the shelves yet that Halo does, which makes Chief and not Sam the one true Xbox original character, and a fitting poster boy/symbol of the system. (Dont even mention bums like Blinx or Azurik!)

On the other side is Tommy 'Vice City' Vercetti, who stands for nothing more than halfhearted character development masked by corporate overmarketing and word of mouth sales of a game played mostly by peeps looking for a violence fix. He is a good representative for the modern day mass selling game's more or less generic character.

Many people have played these games, myself included, and I enjoyed both of them for what they were. But I did not play them for the main characters. Neither did many others. These two in this contest are both overseeded #3 seeds and it showed in first round matches against lesser known game series RPG characters. Both are doomed to defeat in Round 2 against stronger competition than they already faced, and had troubles with.

If they faced off, Tommy would grease the Chief with a win, because there are more PS2 users, Xbox/Microsoft haters, and more copies of GTA floating around than Halo. The margin would be tight, only at 60%-40% at most...if that high.

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~Steve Illumina~ Contest Score: 24/30
Official Sephiroth Supporter: Summer Contest 2003

From: solarshadow | Posted: 7/30/2003 4:25:09 PM | Message Detail

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From: Slowflake | Posted: 7/30/2003 4:38:42 PM | Message Detail

Match #30 Review (and match #29 additional thoughts)

Round 2 just got interesting. For a long, long while, it looked as though we would only have Bowser vs. Yoshi as a good match, but now we have Ryu vs. Dante and, with Vercetti's disappointing performance, DK vs. Tommy V. The funny thing about today's match is... no one seems to agree on who's a stronger opponent, Kite or Vyse. I'd say Vyse was, but not by far. Plus, there is the "same console factor" that killed DK last year, but helped him against Vyse. That gave the illusion that DK was beating Vyse handily... barring that factor, it should have been more along the lines of 55-45. So Kite would need to be 10% weaker than Vyse to have a DK/Vercetti 50-50. I just don't think the margin is so much. My point is, Solar was wrong... this match indeed tests Vercetti's might, and it's just not impressive at all. He should beat DK by a slim margin, then go down in spectacular fashion to the Blue Bomber. To think, he had the 6th highest odds... could bracket-voters be a determining factor in a round 2 victory?

Match #31 Preview

THE SEQUEL NOBODY WANTED: Well, we were on the money about the lack of interest in Tomb Raider: Cradle of Life. The big-budget sequel finished an astonishing fourth at the box office this weekend. Yes, people are interested in star Angelina Jolie (#13), but that #45 ranking for Tomb Raider includes both the film and the video games, and it is far lower than the #7 peak of the first Tomb Raider movie in 2001.

Source: 50.lycos.com, July 29, 2003

This column excerpt can be cut down to four words: no one cares anymore. Sure, Lara's one of the most recognized faces of gaming, but I have to remind you all of something... in last year's round 1, the match where both contestants combined had more name recognition than any other round 1 match ended up being the biggest blowout in Summer Contest history so far. Of course, it won't be the case in 2003, but my point is, name recognition will get you nowhere if people know you, but don't care. That's where Lara stands. As far as Zelda is concerned, Tidus vs. Ganondorf showed that Link, Ganondorf and Zelda must be considered as three separate entities. She surely won't rake in the votes like Link, but she won't do too bad, either, as Lara's definitely no Tidus... she couldn't even get 30% against Crono. Further proof that, and sorry if I'm redundant but I HAVE to insist, nobody cares.
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Summer 2003 Contest: Slowflake (CAN) . . . . . 27/29, 0 lost . . . . . T-90 (384-way)
Today's pick: Vercetti

From: solarshadow | Posted: 7/30/2003 4:42:24 PM | Message Detail

And King Morgoth is still my hero. ;)

Okay, thanks to King Morgoth the First Round Top 10 section of the stats site is finally updated. Also, the First Round Full List section looks much nicer. All hail Morgoth.

Well, as it turns out, this match tells a whole lot about Vercetti. So far, a paltry 65.97% against a weakling like Kite? That's awful. All of a sudden, even a chump monkey like Donkey Kong is looking like stiff competition.

Yeah, I really thought Vercetti would do better. I guess he got hurt bigtime by the anti-vote. With GTA's enormous popularity, it's hard to imagine he couldn't do better against an opponent like Kite. It looks like DK vs. Vercetti (what I originally thought would be an uneventful match) has turned into one of the more interesting showdowns of the second round. Who's got their money on Donkey Kong now?

Which, of course, begs the question: Who would win, Tommy Vercetti vs. Master Chief?

I still think Vercetti would take it, but it's a very interesting matchup that I'd certainly like to see. Maybe next year. :)
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Contest Stats: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com

From: Slowflake | Posted: 7/30/2003 4:42:52 PM | Message Detail

And a question: is Vercetti called by his name in GTA:VC? If not, then no wonder no one recognizes him with that pic. A close-up pic could help him more in round 2 in that case.
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Summer 2003 Contest: Slowflake (CAN) . . . . . 27/29, 0 lost . . . . . T-90 (384-way)
Today's pick: Vercetti

From: solarshadow | Posted: 7/30/2003 4:47:13 PM | Message Detail

Vercetti is frequently referred to by name, to the point where most people who've played Vice City should recognize it when they see it. Not that the shirt shouldn't have given it away long in advance...
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Contest Stats: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com

From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 7/30/2003 4:51:31 PM | Message Detail

IMO anti-votes should not have much of an effect on Vercetti. Yes, Vice City is popular and thus there are a lot of potential anti-voters. One problem. Many GTA fans don't even know Vercetti is the guy in the game. I doubt many people who dislike GTA will even know Vercetti is from GTA3. You can't anti-vote if don't know who the character is.
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From: Jjukil | Posted: 7/30/2003 5:11:25 PM | Message Detail

Heh heh. Obviously Vercetti's true strength is still a mystery...or, at least, the reasoning behind his weakness in today's poll is.

Personally, I think that the hardcore GTA players (and there's obviously a lot of them at this site) will know they're playing as Tommy Vercetti. His design is pretty unique thanks to that Hawaiian shirt (the original GTA guy just looked like Max Payne), and his name is used fairly often in the cutscenes. But while the cutscenes refer to him as Vercetti, the rest of the game doesn't, and neither do the TV commercials. So he may be more pic-reliant than most, in that a lot of casual voters have probably seen him but never/rarely heard his name.

...I think today's pic should be good enough for most people to recognize him, though. Even if he does look fat. =P So Vercetti's true support is not looking good.

As for the other subject at hand--well, I said Dante needed a strong showing if he wanted to beat Ryu, and he sure had one. Chalk up another unpredictable second-round match. Like Vyse and Kite, it's hard to tell if Duke or Ryo is weaker; Duke's certainly more recognizable, but he's also a PC character. We'll just have to see how this one goes when it goes...and, for most of us, hope Ryu wins after all.

From: Slowflake | Posted: 7/30/2003 5:11:33 PM | Message Detail

Well put TRE.

I had another thought, and I want to put it here.

Is being seeded third a kiss of death?

Duke Nukem: Very well known, but hated a lot as well.
Gordon Freeman: Mario and Crono blank? Think again.
Jill Valentine: Best opposition against Link in the 2002 South, so... yeah, despite being such a weak division in the first place.
Serious Sam: Almost lost to Mr. Driller, the rest is history...
Luigi: Good 3-seed, though Magus should've been here.
Master Chief: So few here own an X-Box, and there are always the haters.
Kirby: Popular on the board, but outside... no.
Tommy Vercetti: See today's result.

So the only deserving 3-seed EVER would be Luigi, and you can include Jill if you want to take the strength of the division into account.

On another note, I've got a couple columns on the way for Friday:

-Round 1 Winners And Losers*
-Round 2 Overview

*not bracket-wise!
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Summer 2003 Contest: Slowflake (CAN) . . . . . 27/29, 0 lost . . . . . T-90 (384-way)
Today's pick: Vercetti

From: cyko | Posted: 7/30/2003 5:18:56 PM | Message Detail

Top 10 Vote Getters

1. Cloud Strife- 94086
2. Link- 92998
3. Sephiroth- 90364
4. Mario- 89189
5. Crono- 88469
6. Solid Snake- 84638
7. Samus Aran- 81123
8. Bowser- 74164
9. Dante- 74068
10. Sonic- 73484

Top 10 Most Pathetic Characters (Least Votes)

1. Aiai- 8802
2. Captain Olimar- 11678
3. CATS- 14168
4. Tom Nook- 14631
5. Raiden- 17480
6. Raziel- 19838
7. Ryo Hazuki- 21316
8. Ratchet- 24099
9. Ness- 24627
10. Isaac- 26560

Top 10 Blowouts (Biggest Vote Difference)

1. Link over Aiai- 84196
2. Cloud over Cats- 79918
3. Mario over Captain Olimar- 77511
4. Crono over Tom Nook- 73838
5. Sephiroth over Raziel- 70526
6. Solid Snake over Raiden- 67158
7. Samus over Isaac- 54563
8. Dante over Ryo Hazuki- 53752
9. Bowser over Ness- 49537
10. Luigi over Ratchet- 46451

Top 10 Closest Matches

1. Ganondorf over Tidus- 1582
2. Kefka over Pac-Man- 1773
3. Master Chief over Felix- 6318
4. Max Payne over Gordon Freeman- 7284
5. Knuckles over Yuna- 10832
6. Kirby over Ramza- 15380
7. Squall over Jill- 19118
8. KOS-MOS over Crash Bandicoot- 23631
9. Donkey Kong over Vyse- 24284
10. Zero over Scorpion- 28969

Top 10 Most Impressive Losers

1. Tidus- 57078
2. Felix- 50231
3. Pac-Man- 45905
4. Yuna- 45531
5. Ramza- 42482
6. Gordon Freeman- 41997
7. Scorpion- 41916
8. Tails- 38685
9. Jill Valentine- 38274
10. Crash Bandicoot- 37510

Top 10 Least Impressive Winners

1. Kefka- 47678
2. Max Payne- 49281
3. Knuckles- 56363
4. Master Chief- 56549
5. Squall- 57392
6. Kirby 57862
7. Ganondorf- 58660
8. Magus- 60598
9. Donkey Kong- 61027
10. KOS-MOS- 61141

Top 10 Biggest Vote Totals

1. Tidus vs. Ganondorf- 115738
2. Zero vs. Scorpion- 112801
3. Sephiroth vs. Raziel- 110202
4. Auron vs. Tails- 108884
5. Cloud vs. CATS- 108254
6. Samus vs. Isaac- 107683
7. Master Chief vs. Felix- 106780
8. Sonic vs. Ken- 106630
9. Wario vs. Shadow the Hedgehog- 104607
10. Crono vs. Tom Nook- 103100

Top 10 Smallest Vote Totals

1. Gordon Freeman vs. Max Payne- 91278
2. Sam Fisher vs. Magus- 91464
3. Yoshi vs. Conker- 92418
4. Pac-Man vs. Kefka- 93583
5. Luigi vs. Ratchet- 94649
6. Dante vs. Ryo Hazuki- 95384
7. Squall vs. Jill Valentine- 95666
8. Ryu vs. Duke Nukem- 96408
9. Donkey Kong vs. Vyse- 97770
10. Sora vs. Aeris- 97810

Top 10 Easiest Matches to Pick (Based on Number of Correct Contest Entries)

1. Link vs. Aiai- 99.1%
2. Mario vs. Captain Olimar- 98.0%
3. Cloud vs. CATS- 94.9%
4. Sephiroth vs. Raziel- 93.9%
5. Samus vs. Isaac- 93.8%
6. Crono vs. Tom Nook- 92.8%
7. Solid Snake vs. Raiden- 92.6%
8. Luigi vs. Ratchet- 87.9%
9. Sonic vs. Ken- 84.4%
10. Dante vs. Ryo Hazuki- 83.5%

Top 10 Hardest Matches to Pick

1. Wario vs. Shadow the Hedgehog- 42.1%
2. KOS-MOS vs. Crash Bandicoot- 42.5%
3. Pac-Man vs. Kefka- 43.5%
4. Zero vs. Scorpion- 47.3%
5. Tidus vs. Ganondorf- 47.7%
6. Knuckles vs. Yuna- 50.2%
7. Sam Fisher vs. Magus- 56.9%
8. Pikachu vs. Fox McCloud- 57.4%
9. Auron vs. Tails- 60.7%
10. Squall vs. Jill Valentine- 62.1%

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Currently a fan of these Summer2K3 characters:
Magus, Cloud, Zero, Bowser, Kefka, Sephiroth and Mr. Resetti

From: cyko | Posted: 7/30/2003 5:45:09 PM | Message Detail

cyko's Match 30 Review

Tommy Vercetti vs. Kite

well, dang. i guess Vercetti really isn't getting much support. and i have a really hard time believing that Kite is more popular than Vyse. i know Dot Hack has more of a following than it should (or as much as i was willing to admit yesterday), but i do believe that there is a bit of a GTA anti-vote in there. either way, it kinda proves one of my points i made yesterday:

honestly, how many fans of Grand Theft Auto really care about the characters or the story? most people play the game to shoot people and steal police cars and tanks that you can run things over with; not to get sucked into the story. and we all know how well action characters do on gamefaqs compared to rpg characters (see Master Chief). so this match will be a bit of gauge to see how many fans Vercetti has gathered, or if most GTA fans don't recognize him or care enough to vote.

i guess most GTA fans either don't recognize him or care enough to vote. putting up these unimpressive numbers against a nobody like Kite means that he has no chance against a big name like Megaman. now, even Donkey Kong will prove to be an interesting match. i still believe that Vercetti is a little stronger than DK. right now (at 5:30), Vercetti is winning by as much as DK did yesterday, and his lead is still increasing. but now, we have another close Round 2 match to look forward to.

cyko's Match 31 Preview

Lara Croft vs. Zelda

i used to think this was going to be a close match, especially with Lara's new movie coming out. but the more i thought about it, the less of a chance i saw Lara having. she only pulled 65% against a rapping onion and then barely defeated the underacheiving Ryo Hazuki (who got destroyed by Dante). i really did think that the movie would help her, but then i saw that amazon post that Slowflake posted which slammed how awful the new Tomb Raider movie is. bwahahahahah!!! nobody really does care about Lara Croft anymore. all she has going for her are her big blocky breasts, which really aren't that impressive anymore either. her new game is a pile, or movie is tanking, and her downward spiral will continue with her loss to Zelda. aside from being the name of one of the most popular series ever, she also drew her own fans with Super Smash Bros. that may not amount to much against a powerhouse like Megaman, but against a washed up character that is way past her prime, it will definitely suffice.

prediction: Zelda with about 60%

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Currently a fan of these Summer2K3 characters:
Magus, Cloud, Zero, Bowser, Kefka, Sephiroth and Mr. Resetti

From: EvilNcr | Posted: 7/30/2003 5:48:13 PM | Message Detail

slowflake, a comment I might add. You talk of DK doing that well though being favored by the "same console" advantage.

But the same thing goes with Vercetti and he still does poorly. And.. Skies of Arcadia was always more popular than .hack, despite it being on GCN.
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From: Slowflake | Posted: 7/30/2003 5:58:43 PM | Message Detail

True. However, the Gamecube caters to much less categories of gamers, and the main one (regarding only the Gamecube) tends to like classic franchises like DK over RPGs.

Meanwhile, the PS2 has monster sales numbers, and it appeals to many more categories. On one hand, you have a super-violent game, and an RPG(?) on the other.

But, now you must ask, since both belong to different categories in both cases, why is Vercetti so different from DK:

Answer: THE SIZE OF THE CATEGORIES. Like I said, a great majority of people bought the Gamecube not for the few RPGs it has, but for the first-party games. However, PS2 is a better measuring stick, as it's a universal console of sorts, because of the incredible variety of games for it. And look at the sales!

It sounds confusing, I know, but that's how I see it.
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Summer 2003 Contest: Slowflake (CAN) . . . . . 27/29, 0 lost . . . . . T-90 (384-way)
Today's pick: Vercetti

From: NT220 | Posted: 7/31/2003 7:35:18 AM | Message Detail

Slowflake's post about third seeds underperforming got me to compile some stats about how various seedings fared in last years tournament. Characters with 1, 2, and 3 wins are all assigned as many points, semifinalists are given 5, finalists 7, and the winner 10.

Listed are the total points of all four characters of a certain seeding. In the parentheses I give the expectant, which is the amount of points the seeding will have if every match went perfectly according to seed - so first seeds have an expectant of 27, because if no seeding upsets took place then the winner, runner-up, and two semifinalists will all be first seeds, giving a total point value of 27.

1 seeds: 13 (27)
2 seeds: 17 (12)
3 seeds: 4 (8)
4 seeds: 5 (8)
5 seeds: 11 (4)
6 seeds: 5 (4)
7 seeds: 8 (4)
8 seeds: 2 (4)
9 seeds: 2 (0)
10 seeds: 0 (0)
11 seeds: 2 (0)
12 seeds: 1 (0)
13 seeds: 0 (0)
14 seeds: 1 (0)
15 seeds: 0 (0)
16 seeds: 0 (0)

As seen, the fifth seeds were the biggest overachievers last year, with a semifinalist (Crono) and two quarterfinalists (Samus and Scorpion) to their credit. In fact, had their representative in the North division (Terry Bogard) not been so weak, they would have easily been the second-best seeding. Third and fourth seeds were indeed disappointing, each with only one character actually living up to his or her seeding. The seventh seeds also performed beyond expectations, though that was almost entirely due to Sephiroth. Similarly, only one of the first seeds (Mario) actually took the division final as the seeding dictated, and had he not reached the finals the first seeds may have actually suffered the embarrassment of losing to the sevenths.

Of course, last year's seedings were done, to paraphrase CJayC, "by entrants' predictions and blind guessing", so they certainly weren't ideal. This year the seedings far better reflect the characters' actual popularity (except for a few cases such Magus), so there should be less difference between the expectant and actual values.
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From: therealmnm | Posted: 7/31/2003 3:53:09 PM | Message Detail

lol, I JUST posted a topic yesterday asking about people's opinions and whatnot... I post it and then I stumble upon this topic and every question that I had to ask was answered in this topic. I wanted to just delete my topic, but oh well. Great job guys! I probably won't be POSTING but I'm reading everything! Great way to occupy my time on a slow day at my desk at work!

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And that's The Real M&M, NOT The Real Man!!!!

From: MOB | Posted: 7/31/2003 3:53:52 PM | Message Detail

Random rant from the MOB:

Mario didn't quite blow-out weak opponents and look how he ended up. (Reference to Vercetti vs. Kite match.) Oh and .hack is a much more popular game than Skies of Acardia, even though the latter may be the better game. I personally care more for .hack's innovativeness but I easily see why Skies is hailed as much as it is. Vercetti will beat DK without difficulty and may even upset the overrated Mega Man.

Talk about characters being unimportant to the game, do people really play the Mega Man games out of strong character relations they see with a blue-suited pre-pubescent?

Vercetti is sarcastic, angry, loud, brash, and and hated by parents everywhere. Not to mention overtly Italian and fashionable. How could you not like him?!

I personally feel that Vercetti is a better character, in design and personality, than anyone he will face up until perhaps Sephiroth.

That's all. Keep your eyes open for the MOB, you don't want to get on it's bad side....
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From: SCCAN85 | Posted: 7/31/2003 4:03:39 PM | Message Detail

The only thing that may prevent Vercetti from going very far is name recognition. I'm referring mainly to the Megaman/vercetti match. Everyone who plays a Megaman game knows who Megaman is, whether they like the game or not. Not everyone who has played GTA:Vice City know about Vercetti unless they take the time to get into the story.

Surprisingly, a lot of people enjoy the freedom and go on killing sprees and car chases before getting into the story so who knows. I have vercetti winning and while that may be a huge mistake I'm still rooting for the gangsta against my favorite robot next to Zero.
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From: MOB | Posted: 7/31/2003 4:06:07 PM | Message Detail

The MOB likes its rants responded to.....
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Moremegli said:
"I have two glue sniffing pirate teachers. Oddly enough they both teach art, must be for the easy access to the glue."

From: FFantasyFX | Posted: 7/31/2003 4:50:09 PM | Message Detail

Answering Slowflake's sales number question from a couple pages ago:

According to the NPD chart that I have, the original Parasite Eve sold over 750,000 copies, quite a bit more than I expected. The sequel sold close to 250,000 copies.

On the other hand, the Dreamcast Skies of Arcadia sold slightly over 100,000 copies. I don't have definitive numbers for Skies of Arcadia Legends, the Gamecube version, but based on what I know and some extrapolation, I'd guess that it has sold between 60,000 to 75,000 copies.

Obviously Parasite Eve has a lot more exposure than SoA, although I think SoA partially counters that with a more rabid fanbase.

From: cyko | Posted: 7/31/2003 5:03:16 PM | Message Detail

sorry, MOB, but Vercetti will not beat Megaman. Megamanfans are everywhere. Vercetti will have a tough match against DK now. Megaman almost beat Sephiroth last year, who has a way bigger following than little Kite. the number three curse strikes again.

and Slowflake, i was thinking the same thing about the number three seed curse myself. at least some of the seeds kinda made sense. Halo and GTA: VC are popular games. but Serious Sam Stone? what the heck was that all about?!?

cyko's Match 31 Review

Lara Croft vs. Zelda

see? i told you that nobody cares about Tomb Raider or Lara Croft anymore. her aging series should be retired. instead, the Zelda series goes three for three in round one. however, Zelda's victory today (currently about 62%) isn't impressive enough to suggest that she will do anything to stop Megaman next round. but at least she will put up a better fight than Serious Sam Stone (good grief, a three seed!!?!).

cyko's Match 32 Preview

Megaman vs. Mr. Resetti

what's to preview here? match starts at 12:00. at 12:01 Megaman secures an insurmountable lead over the helpless mole. begin round two. Mr. Resetti is a pretty funny character (way funnier than crappy CATS), but there is no way he should have been in this tournament; especially after another Animal Crossing character already got slaughtered. biggest blowout ever? maybe; the results will be very similar to Link vs. Aiai, but the lack of anti-Megaman votes may boost Megaman over the top. lowest vote amount ever for the angry mole? i seriously doubt it. Animal Crossing has a lot more support on this site than Sam Stone and there are more pity voters this year than there were last year. he should be able to at least break 6000. either way, expect a slow board tomorrow as the fanboys prepare for round two.

prediction: Megaman with 92.14%

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Currently a fan of these Summer2K3 characters:
Magus, Cloud, Zero, Bowser, Kefka, Sephiroth and Mr. Resetti

From: Slowflake | Posted: 7/31/2003 5:07:39 PM | Message Detail

Thanks FFFX. Though I think rabidness doesn't matter a lot, just the "fan" part of it. Unless there's cheating involved.

Another question... what about .hack?

Match #31 Review

What did I tell you? Zelda's laying the smackdown on the universal VG sex-symbol. Not so surprising. Her percentage has been falling all day long, though, so I'd predict she finishes with 62%. It's almost 10 points less than Crono, but hey, she's no Crono and everybody knew that. But if you're no Crono... how much of a chance do you stand against the Blue Bomber? Zero. I'm goind to predict she gets 35% of the votes though... which might just be better than Vercetti.

Match #32 Preview

Here he comes... the only character capable of ending Link's reign. Shout Magus or Samus all you want, they didn't prove themselves as great threats. And if Sephiroth doesn't survive the South, Megaman has an awesome shot an appearance in the finals. But first... he has Resetti in his way. What a joke. First, his picture is horrible. Have you seen it? Worse than Lettuce Kefka in every possible aspect. And Megaman destroyed a rather photogenic opponent (the Rock... er, Serious Sam) 92-8. I haven't played AC, but an angry mole that jumps out at ya when you press Reset... I'd hate that. To say, it'll only get pity votes from people who haven't played AC... Raiden had a lot of confusion and a weaker opponent working for him. 95-5? Not too far-fetched...
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Summer 2003 Contest: Slowflake (CAN) . . . . . 28/30, 0 lost . . . . . T-80 (348-way)
Today's pick: Zelda

From: Team Aqua Elite | Posted: 7/31/2003 5:24:35 PM | Message Detail

In responce to MOB:

Vercetti can't really be compared to Mario. Mario has tons more name recognition then Vercetti does and has been around much longer. Some people who have played Vice City don't even know Vercetti's name. So while you can go the boards unrelated to video games and get votes for Mario. You might not even get support from GTA boards about Vercetti. Megaman is way over rated on this board, but that does NOT mean he is a weak opponent. Megaman was last year's blowout king and was only slightly weaker then Sephiroth. Even if Vercetti was as stong as predicted, Megaman would put up a challenge. Based on Vercetti's Round 1 proformance, he will be blown out by Megaman.
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In the land of Hoenn where the downpour lies.

From: cyko | Posted: 7/31/2003 5:36:24 PM | Message Detail

i'm not gonna preview every round 2 match yet (i gotta save my commentary for the day before the matches); but now that the round one matches are all decided (including Megaman. =P), i will ask for your opinions.

which round two matches do you think will be close?

i believe that we will see seven close matches:

(12) Ganondorf vs. (13) Magus- Magus is infinitely more popular than Tidus on the boards and he has the better picture with Akira Toriyama's art. but will it be enough to stop the Legend of Zelda fans?

(3) Luigi vs. (6) Squall- Sguall has the Square support, but he is one of the more unliked Final Fantasy heros. he will have a tough time taking out everyone's favorite underdog, but does Luigi have has many fans as his brother?

(4) Yoshi vs. (5) Bowser- with the Super Mario vote split, who will come out to challenge Cloud? before the tourney started, Yoshi was the heavy favorite, but Bowser had a much more impressive first round victory.

(2) Sonic vs. (7) Zero- this will be the most surprisingly close match of round 2. Zero is definitely not the favorite, but he only recieved about 2600 fewer votes than Sonic did in Round one against an arguably tougher opponent; and did it with a LOT fewer people predicting him to win in their brackets (47.3% vs. 84.4%). with his anime-style image giving him a good portion of the casual vote and Megaman supporters, he just might pull off the upset.

(3) Kirby vs. (6) Alucard- neither really has much of a big advantage. Alucard beat Bomberman by a bigger margin than Jill did last year and Jill beat Kirby. so theoretically, Alucard should have an easy match. but Kirby seems to have a lot more support this year, making this a close match.

(4) Dante vs. (5) Ryu both had impressive first round victories over fading characters. both haven't had a really popular game in a while. both are Capcom characters. it could go either way.

(3) Tommy Vercetti vs. (6) Donkey Kong- this wasn't supposed to be a close match, but Vercetti didn't do all that great aginst Kite the obscure rpg character. DK didn't do all that spectacular against Vyse either, though. now they are just fighting for the chance to be Megaman's third victim.

that's my preview for Round 2. all the other matches are pretty much already decided. we can already welcome, Link, Samus, Cloud, Aeris, Mario, Crono, Sephiroth, Solid Snake, and Megaman to the sweet sixteen.

what do you think?

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Currently a fan of these Summer2K3 characters:
Magus, Cloud, Zero, Bowser, Kefka, Sephiroth and Mr. Resetti

From: Slowflake | Posted: 7/31/2003 5:43:23 PM | Message Detail

Darn, I put italics instead of bold. Not like it matters anyway.

And cyko... you're stretching a little far here. We will have THREE, count them, THREE good matches in round 2. Still better than last year's fabulous ONE (and it was the wrong one at that), but four of these are more like not-so-big-but-obvious-wins-nonetheless. But I'll keep it for tomorrow. Wow, I'm going to have a busy day on this topic tomorrow. My usual review and preview, Winners And Losers, round 2 overview... I can't wait to write all of this!
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Summer 2003 Contest: Slowflake (CAN) . . . . . 28/30, 0 lost . . . . . T-80 (348-way)
Today's pick: Zelda

From: Samberdog | Posted: 7/31/2003 6:04:58 PM | Message Detail

Sorry I haven't been posting much lately... the contest I've been running has been eating all my internet time.

Cyko, I agree with all the second round matches you named. I wouldn't bet all my money on any of them.

Match #25 - Solid Snake VS Raiden - Review

Snake - 84638 / 82.88%
Raiden - 17.12% / 17.12%

Total - 102118 (11th highest)

Prediction Percentage - 92.6% (19th hardest)
My Pick - Snake
Analysis Topic Pick - Snake
"Odds" Pick - Snake

Brackets Ruined - 21

A good performance by Snake, but it's hard to tell just how popular he is since he faced a fellow MGS character. Still, Snake seems to be where we last left him, at the bottom of the top tier or the top of the upper/middle tier. Snake will defeat Knuckles (*sigh* again...)quite easily, although it'll be interesting to see how the results differ from last year's contest. Barring some crazy upset, he'll also beat Ryu (I hope). He won't stand a chance against MegaMan unless the Blue Bomber has seriously dropped in popularity in the last year. Raiden certainly could have done worse... although I never thought it would be that huge of a blowout. I'd say Resetti is a shoe-in for the Mrs. Pac-Man award this year. I can't wait for that match... I'm really excited for MegaMan this year... I can't say why though.

Match #26 - Knuckles VS Yuna - Review

Knuckles - 56363 / 55.32%
Yuna - 45531 / 44.68%

Total - 101894 (12th highest)

Prediction Percentage - 50.2%
My Pick - Yuna
Analysis Topic Pick - Knuckles
"Odds" Pick - Yuna

Brackets Ruined - 95

Oh darn. I had Knuckles in my bracket, but I actually went and changed after the deadline. I blame MMXcalibur 100% :D. That's the second point I've lost by underestimating a Sonic character. Not that it really matters, as this match was extremely tough to predict. It was the only match that the analysis topic could not reach a near consensus on. So Knuckles is off to round two to get his butt handed to him by Snake for the second time. I guess Yuna wasn't as strong as we thought, obviously FF-X2 didn't seem to help. Another confirmation that upcoming games do not make a difference in voting.

Match #27 - Ryu VS Duke Nukem - Review

Ryu - 67413 / 69.92%
Duke Nukem - 28995 / 30.08%

Total - 96408 (21st highest)

Prediction Percentage - (14th hardest)
My Pick - Ryu
Analysis Topic Pick - Ryu
"Odds" Pick - Ryu

Brackets Ruined - 41

Ryu did quite well... even though his percentage had been dropping throughout the day. I thought it would be closer... I guess Duke really sucks... although he's probably even less popular than he was last year. Ryu should be able to beat Dante and advance to round three (although it might be close), a performance like this isn't enough to take down Snake though. Bonus for this being a match with two characters that made it to the second round last year. Conclusions: Iori < Duke (< Alucard) < Ryu < Samus.
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Summer 2003: "The Great GameFAQs Character Battle II"
Current Record: 26-4 / 26 points won / 4 points lost / Tied at #1400

From: MMXcalibur | Posted: 7/31/2003 7:15:04 PM | Message Detail

Hehe....yeah, remember me tellin' you I take no blame in that Yuna suggestion, Samberdog?

I live by it to this day...

XD

Anyways, I'd post analysis on the matches ahead and behind us.....

But...I'm all analyzed out after writing out the Link/Fox bout in my PC.
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(2)MEGA MAN vs (15)Mr. Resetti
VOTE MEGA MAN TOMMORROW! (28/31 pts.)

From: solarshadow | Posted: 8/1/2003 1:59:07 AM | Message Detail

The stats website is fully updated. Phew, that takes longer and longer to do with each new section I add. Especially if I'm doing two days' worth at a time. ;) New poll up too. I'm behind on those again. That's about it for now. Need some sleep.

Don't forget to enter the Oracle Challenge if you haven't already. It starts tomorrow!
http://cgi.gamefaqs.com/boards/genmessage.asp?board=8&topic=9246055
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Contest Stats: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com

From: steve illumina | Posted: 8/1/2003 12:09:04 PM | Message Detail

With Mr Resetti getting stomped back into the molehole from whence he came, it is now time to move onward...onward to my look at Round 2 in the North Division...

(1) Link vs (9) Fox: We started Round 1 with a blowout, why not start Round 2 with one as well? Scanning the 16 matches of Round 2, it appears that this match has a better than average shot at being the biggest blowout of all 16 of them. The Link juggernaut is too mighty to be stopped by fellow Nintendite supported character, Fox.

Reasons why...too many to list, but I will anyway. Link has been around longer, defending champ, recent release was very good, poster child of Nintendo along with Mario, total destruction of AiAi shows his power, cameo in Soul Caliber 2 releasing in 4 weeks seals the deal..best original character crossover in a long while. You get the jist of it...Fox's fate is set, but he will be back next year regardless. Pick: Link by 87.11%

(12) Ganondorf vs (13) Magus: The closest battle of the North Division Round 2 is right here. The ages old Nintendo vs Square war fights another round here, a battle of villains, both with loyal rabid fanbases and hailing from longtime game series. Ganon has morphed in appearance over the years, but has remained the one true undisputed nemesis of Link. He comes from the most highly regarded of Nintendo's franchises, and Nintendo fanboys would covet a Link v Ganon match in the Sweet 16...

But it wont happen. Magus has just a tad bit more supporters in the Square camp. Is regarded as one of the Top 3 Square villians ever by many (along with Kefka and Sephiroth). Dont look at the easy victory over 'Splinter' Sam Fisher to be the reason for this win though. Sam was a nobody, Ganon is a somebody. Pictures? Pretty much irrelevant also, any real gamer knows who these two are. The casual vote will be split pretty much even with little deviation to one side or the other, leaving this one up to the real fans. And the fans will speak for Magus, but not by much. Pick: Magus by 58.22%

(6) Squall vs (3) Luigi: Interesting match here, as underrated dark horse Luigi takes on the pride of FF8, Squall. Squall is not all that popular in Square circles as we all know. He is a middle of the road Square hero who is merely average, no better, no worse. Supporting characters like Frog and Vivi have more loyal fanbases than this guy. Sure he beat has-been Jill Valentine, but so what? He now meets a foe with more staying power than Jilly...

Sidekick Luigi has become more and more popular over the years as the loyal lackey to the King of Platformers, Mario. He destroyed one game wonder Ratchet convincingly, heck it was not even close, and will stomp all over Squall too. Square vs Nintendo again, yes, but not like Magus and Ganon. Nintendo strikes back here, but more convincingly, as the casual vote sways too far in Luigi's direction. Pick: Luigi by 69.89%

(7) KOS-MOS vs (2) Samus Aran: Not much to say here, should be a solid victory by the better known Samus Aran over worthy foe KOS-MOS. KOS-MOS will put up a good show for herself, with the RPG loyalists firmly in her camp, but the casuals and others will go with Samus, who has never met a game she did not like in her Metroid series. Nintendites are too numerous, and she is one of their faves. 2 is a Prime number, she is Prime, and she is Prime for victory here, though it will not be a blowout. Pick: Samus by 72.20%

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~Steve Illumina~ Contest Score: 25/32
Official Sephiroth Supporter: Summer Contest 2003

From: StopPokingMe | Posted: 8/1/2003 2:22:23 PM | Message Detail

Where are they now?

With the first round in the books, let's take a look at how last year's veterans are faring in this year's contest.

34 characters who appeared in GCB 2k2 returned for GCB 2k3.

In 2002, thanks to the bracket pairings, at most 28 of those characters could have advanced to round 2 (Tails, Fox, Squall, Kirby, Ken, and CATS all returned after losing in the 1st round to opponents who also returned). 26 did advance to round 2. Gordon Freeman and Raziel lost to characters who did not return.

This year, thanks to the pairings, at most 25 of the 34 repeat entrants could have advanced to round 2. Only 19 have done so. Tidus, Crash, Tails, Scorpion, Pac-Man, and Lara Croft have the unenviable distinction of having been beaten by a newbie.

Thus the failure rate among these returning characters, who we will assume for the sake of argument to have been the strongest competitors from last year, is up from 2/28 to 6/25. That's a whopping 236% increase! Make no mistake, the competition is much stronger this year.

To further illustrate this point:

All of last year's final four returned, and are still alive after 1 round.

All of last year's elite 8 returned, but one of them (Scorpion) couldn't even win one round! Many congratulations are in order for new entrant Zero who could be a major threat in years to come.

All of last year's sweet 16 returned, but 4 (Lara, Pac-Man, Scorpion, and Jill Valentine) are already gone. New entrants Zelda and Kefka have certainly made a name for themselves, and returning contestant Squall's stock is on the rise.

Fox, Squall and Kirby have so far bucked the trend--they are the only characters who have advanced farther already than they did last year.

On a somewhat unrelated note, this year's sweet 16 is guaranteed to have at least two new faces, as newbies Ganondorf and Magus clash in the North while Bowser and Yoshi compete for the spot in the East. Tidus is the only repeat entrant who could have taken either of those spots, though...
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"You think you're right, but you know you're wrong." -- My friend, master debater

From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/1/2003 4:39:55 PM | Message Detail

Match #32 Review

Disappointing should be the word for Megaman's performance today. "What are you talking about? He's got 89%!" Yes, but Megaman has no hate base whatsoever, and he's barely doing better than Crono who has a rather good one. Granted, AC might have been big for a while, as it ascended to the top 10 FAQs pages for some time, but Resetti's not the kind of character that you should like. Unless people like the comical relief he delivers... but basically, he's MEANT to be an annoyance. Ms. Pac-Man didn't reach 8% against Megaman, but has a lot more name recognition. Then again, Serious Sam, who has pretty much none (and to come back on the topic of the 3-seeds, how he got one is beyond me) did better... so could it be that his performance against Ms. Pac-Man raised the expectations to a level that is unattainable, no matter what? Maybe. But Megaman's still unimpressive today.

Match #33 Preview (Poll #1337 special edition)

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NEXT: Round 1 Winners And Losers
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Summer 2003 Contest: Slowflake (CAN) . . . . . 29/31, 0 lost . . . . . T-68 (236-way)
Today's pick: Megaman

From: bladeblur | Posted: 8/1/2003 5:34:26 PM | Message Detail

Match 35 review

With a new Movie, and a luckbuster game, it wasn't enough for Ms. Croft to take the trophy against Zelda. Guess who's the main lady here, Croft!

Match 36 review
Easy win for Mega Man. The angry moll, while being one of the most funniest characters ever in a video game, could not beat Capcom's hero, we love him, and we need to hope if he could last against Snake.

Match 37 preview
Fox is cool, Link is cooler. Another easy challenge to the champion... Probably until Samus he won't have any challenges... Link 86%

Match 38 preview
So I thought that Sam will beat Magus, I didn't know how popular he is. But against Ganondorf it's a bit tougher as there are many Zelda fans out there. If Ganondorf will win, it'll be Link vs. Ganondorf. Ganon 59%
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Can't hold no much longer, but I'll never let go!
Now Playing: Sonic Adventure DX, Rayman 3, Burnout 2.

From: cyko | Posted: 8/1/2003 7:13:57 PM | Message Detail

Top 10 Vote Getters

1. Cloud Strife- 94086
2. Link- 92998
3. Sephiroth- 90364
4. Mario- 89189
5. Crono- 88469
6. Solid Snake- 84638
7. Samus Aran- 81123
8. Bowser- 74164
9. Dante- 74068
10. Sonic- 73484

Top 10 Most Pathetic Characters (Least Votes)

1. Aiai- 8802
2. Captain Olimar- 11678
3. CATS- 14168
4. Tom Nook- 14631
5. Raiden- 17480
6. Raziel- 19838
7. Ryo Hazuki- 21316
8. Ratchet- 24099
9. Ness- 24627
10. Isaac- 26560

Top 10 Blowouts (Biggest Vote Difference)

1. Link over Aiai- 84196
2. Cloud over Cats- 79918
3. Mario over Captain Olimar- 77511
4. Crono over Tom Nook- 73838
5. Sephiroth over Raziel- 70526
6. Solid Snake over Raiden- 67158
7. Samus over Isaac- 54563
8. Dante over Ryo Hazuki- 53752
9. Bowser over Ness- 49537
10. Luigi over Ratchet- 46451

Top 10 Closest Matches

1. Ganondorf over Tidus- 1582
2. Kefka over Pac-Man- 1773
3. Master Chief over Felix- 6318
4. Max Payne over Gordon Freeman- 7284
5. Knuckles over Yuna- 10832
6. Kirby over Ramza- 15380
7. Squall over Jill- 19118
8. Zelda over Lara Croft- 21701
9. KOS-MOS over Crash Bandicoot- 23631
10. Donkey Kong over Vyse- 24284

Top 10 Most Impressive Losers

1. Tidus- 57078
2. Felix- 50231
3. Lara Croft- 49240
4. Pac-Man- 45905
5. Yuna- 45531
6. Ramza- 42482
7. Gordon Freeman- 41997
8. Scorpion- 41916
9. Tails- 38685
10. Jill Valentine- 38274

Top 10 Least Impressive Winners

1. Kefka- 47678
2. Max Payne- 49281
3. Knuckles- 56363
4. Master Chief- 56549
5. Squall- 57392
6. Kirby 57862
7. Ganondorf- 58660
8. Magus- 60598
9. Donkey Kong- 61027
10. KOS-MOS- 61141

Top 10 Biggest Vote Totals

1. Tidus vs. Ganondorf- 115738
2. Lara Croft vs. Zelda- 113881
3. Zero vs. Scorpion- 112801
4. Sephiroth vs. Raziel- 110202
5. Auron vs. Tails- 108884
6. Cloud vs. CATS- 108254
7. Samus vs. Isaac- 107683
8. Master Chief vs. Felix- 106780
9. Sonic vs. Ken- 106630
10. Wario vs. Shadow the Hedgehog- 104607

Top 10 Smallest Vote Totals

1. Gordon Freeman vs. Max Payne- 91278
2. Sam Fisher vs. Magus- 91464
3. Yoshi vs. Conker- 92418
4. Pac-Man vs. Kefka- 93583
5. Luigi vs. Ratchet- 94649
6. Dante vs. Ryo Hazuki- 95384
7. Squall vs. Jill Valentine- 95666
8. Ryu vs. Duke Nukem- 96408
9. Donkey Kong vs. Vyse- 97770
10. Sora vs. Aeris- 97810

Top 10 Easiest Matches to Pick (Based on Number of Correct Contest Entries)

1. Link vs. Aiai- 99.1%
2. Mario vs. Captain Olimar- 98.0%
3. Cloud vs. CATS- 94.9%
4. Sephiroth vs. Raziel- 93.9%
5. Samus vs. Isaac- 93.8%
6. Crono vs. Tom Nook- 92.8%
7. Solid Snake vs. Raiden- 92.6%
8. Luigi vs. Ratchet- 87.9%
9. Donkey Kong vs. Vyse- 87.7%
10. Sonic vs. Ken- 84.4%

Top 10 Hardest Matches to Pick

1. Wario vs. Shadow the Hedgehog- 42.1%
2. KOS-MOS vs. Crash Bandicoot- 42.5%
3. Pac-Man vs. Kefka- 43.5%
4. Zero vs. Scorpion- 47.3%
5. Tidus vs. Ganondorf- 47.7%
6. Knuckles vs. Yuna- 50.2%
7. Sam Fisher vs. Magus- 56.9%
8. Pikachu vs. Fox McCloud- 57.4%
9. Auron vs. Tails- 60.7%
10. Lara Croft vs. Zelda- 61.7%

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Currently a fan of these Summer2K3 characters:
Magus, Cloud, Zero, Bowser, Kefka, Sephiroth and Mr. Resetti

From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/1/2003 7:30:30 PM | Message Detail

ROUND 1 WINNERS AND LOSERS

This column is inspired by the Planet-F1 website, where a column just like this one is written after every Grand Prix. A difference however: I've added a new award: the Turd Of The Round award, which is just like the Star Of The Round, but for the losers. So without further ado, let's start!

WINNERS

STAR OF THE ROUND: Bowser (E5): Without a doubt, this is the contestant that came out of nowhere to pull a stunning performance against Ness. I expected the Earthbound fanbase to flock in masses and vote Ness, but it looks as though it's more vocal than massive. Nevertheless, Bowser was strong enough to take advantage of the situation and pose himself as a genuine candidate to take the entire East...

Link (N1): I don't know if VGerX kept what I said about Link in his quote, but it was something like this: "Link's just like Kurt Angle: everyone likes him, but yells "You suck" at him out of principle." His match proved just that: it was there to test the might of the anti-champion forces. Conclusion: politicking doesn't mean jack, just ask Wario. Link vs. AiAi will probably stay in the top spot as the biggest blowout of 2003. Some will say that it was cruel and unusual punishment, but others, like me, were amused at the carnage. This display of power should have the opposition crapping in their pants, power suits, trenchcoats and whatnot...

Tidus (N5): He may not have won his match, but he was certainly one of the biggest winners of this round. Many overlooked him back in June (though for some reason, less than half of the entrants picked Ganondorf), totally overlooking his good result against Sonic or blaming it on the blue blur. Sonic showed his power in his match, making Tidus look even better in the process.

Squall Leonhart (N6): His underseeding last year had him job to Snake in the first round, but he gathered 35% of the vote, while his opponent, Jill, got 27% against a much stronger opponent, Link. The table was set for a coin toss... that was not to be. Squall sent Jill to contest hell with a convincing victory. The reason? It seems to be more on Squall's end... Kingdom Hearts, where he apparently played a less frustrating role than in FF8. For that, I'll give the credit to Squall and I won't put Jill in the Losers list. Plus, the "experts", who saved themselves in the three previous matches, what the "others" failed to do, witnessed exactly the reverse, as Samberdog's topic's pick was wrong for the first of two (and a half) times.

CATS (E16): I was tempted to give him the Star Of The Round award, but in the end, he didn't accomplish as much as Bowser... just taking the lead for a couple of minutes. However, this has surely sent chills down the spines of FF fans everywhere, and I think it might have taken off a bit of momentum from the Squaresoft side, as some horrid performances later in the round show. Plus, he provided the board invaluable comical relief. All my thanks are belong to CATS!

Conker (E13): After Bowser's incredible performance against Ness, a lot of people thought that Yoshi would do even better. How wrong we were... He beat the seemingly weak Conker only 2 to 1. For the protagonist of a game that didn't sell all that well, a third of the vote is just extraordinary against a near-icon.

Sonic the Hedgehog (E2): For some strange, creepy reason, he got the same first round opponent as arch-rival Samus last year. And deliver he did, as he got a whole 5 points better than the bounty hunter. This helps to sell himself as yet another threat to Cloud's grip on the East, and this makes the gauntlet he has to face before much easier.
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Summer 2003 Contest: Slowflake (CAN) . . . . . 29/31, 0 lost . . . . . T-68 (236-way)
Today's pick: Megaman

From: Haste2 | Posted: 8/1/2003 7:30:49 PM | Message Detail

From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/1/2003 7:30:54 PM | Message Detail

Mario Mario (S1): With Servbot racking 25% of the votes against him on the way to an appearance in the finals, it gave the impression of a smaller, but much more loyal fanbase. This perception was shattered as Olimar couldn't take advantage of the Mario hate to score a decent percentage. Sure, he's Nintendo too, but Mario's much more of a symbol, so he could gather anti-votes, what he didn't do last year. This gives Mario a lot of momentum for the much-anticipated rematch against Crono...

Shadow the Hedgehog (S9): I hate him so much that I was hoping to give him the Turd award, but no. He pulled a massive upset out of the bag against Wario, who had a lot going for him, from his own games to countless appearances in Mario spin-offs. However, Shadow's coolness (ugh) managed to counter all that, and even better, he got a landslide victory. Looks like we all forgot what one-game wonders can do...

Alucard (S6): Everyone seemed to discard Alucard for the win of his 4-pack... just like last year. However, with a better win against Bomberman than Jill, he will square off with another common opponent, and it makes the results all the more obvious. Yet people STILL underestimate Alucard. Tails, Duke, Bomberman... what will it take for you people to understand that he's able of winning matches?

Kirby (S3): Him and CATS have the same problem: a lot of their support is concentrated in the board. Despite his 3-seed (too high, I must admit), he looked like the underdog against Ramza, who carried the Square aura. But he pulled off a convincing win, which would have made his chances against Alucard look better if it wasn't for Bomberman...

Knuckles the Echidna (W8): Yet another popular character who overcame the Square aura. This was pinpointed in Samberdog's topic as THE most unpredictable match of the first round. It looked like it... until the sun showed up. Knuckles ended up winning by a bigger margin than whatever could be possibly expected.

Dante (W4): Another character that turned the tables on his round 2 opponent. He clearly overachieved in comparison... last year showed he was worth only a few points on Lara, but he went and did 18% better against the same opponent. Could DMC2 have had a POSITIVE impact on Dante? If it's the case, there's no telling what he'll do later on... because it could loyalize (is that a word) the Dante troops, who seemed to flock massively against him against popular characters, turning seemingly even matches *coughcronocough* into blowouts.

Donkey Kong (W6): Finally, a half-decent result for DK, what he didn't have last year. However, Skies of Arcadia being a niche series (and for Gamecube, at that) probably helped DK a lot, a bit like Bowser. But let's give DK the credit he deserves... many saw him struggle to get past the first round, and now he's a Sweet 16 candidate (more on that later). To say, Mario isn't the only one to have a history of incredible luck in the Character Battle...

LOSERS

TURD OF THE ROUND: Tommy Vercetti (W3): Wow, I didn't expect that... I'm giving the Turd award to the one that was toted as the biggest wildcard EVAR. The worst-case scenario back in June, and even for most of July was him losing badly to Megaman, but he sizzuked so much against Kite that he might not even survive DK. Just... wow. Sixth highest odds? As many brackets sent to hell. 'Nuff said.

Ganondorf Dragmire (N12): He's definitely one of the runner-ups for the Turd award. Everyone saw him pick up the win easily (among those that were here in June, at least) due to Link's spillover popularity... and he was nearly ousted from day three. "Everyone wants Link vs. Ganondorf." Once again, Magic-8-Squall says: "...Whatever."
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Summer 2003 Contest: Slowflake (CAN) . . . . . 29/31, 0 lost . . . . . T-68 (236-way)
Today's pick: Megaman

From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/1/2003 7:31:11 PM | Message Detail

Magus (N13): Back in early June, everyone saw Magus as the only major threat to Link, he was AT LEAST on par with Sephiroth, and the true final was on August 18. Time has passed since then, and his rather unconvincing win against Sam Fisher puts him more on Crono's level. It's hardly going to do any good to his chances, isn't it?

Yoshi (E4): The big hype for Yoshi back in June (how many times did I say the word June now?) was an old PotD that said that Yoshi was the favorite Mario character of the voters. A few years later... could that love have vanished? It doesn't sound logical, since Yoshi's been around for so long and has had a great staying power so far. But it's the impression that was left after his match with Conker, and the end of the road could now be earlier for Yoshi than most predicted...

Master Chief (E3): In the middle of X-Box haters and RPG fans, Master Chief wasn't expected to do well against Felix. But for what's as close to a console mascot as Microsoft can have, to lose to a lesser-known RPG character just sounds weird. And it almost happened. For one who has the eighth highest odds, it just might hurt as much as Vercetti.

Scorpion (E10): Scorpion, member of last year's Elite 8 last year, is ousted in the first round. Few people expected that, but let's be honest... Scorpion did worse against Link than STRIDER last year. This tells you how weak he really is. But, he still was overrated like hell, and that's the only reason he's making the Losers list... all that credibility he gained last year is now GONE.

Wario (S8): What happened? One second Wario was a slim favorite for the win, the next one he's losing in a blowout. He had a REALLY bad picture, true, but the problem's not there alone (it's not like Wario's photogenic anyway). It's more likely that the comical relief Wario provides is more seen as an annoyance. But what's for sure is that name recognition isn't worth much on a gaming site. Especially when you lose so many votes to people who haven't even played SA2...

Kefka Palazzo (S12): (Yes, the guy has a last name.) Ouchie. Another top contender for the Turd award. He's probably the most popular character from FF6, as chances are he was the only one nominated enough to get into the contest. This shows that, despite FF6 being the superior game according to people who played 6 and 7, the latter was the one that gave FF its claim to fame. Sure, Pac-Man is a legend, but like Donkey Kong, he's not that liked. So to fail to win by 2000 votes against him is definitely a kiss of death for later rounds, no matter the opponent.

Ramza Beoulve (S14): Normally, lesser Square, or at least RPG, competitors have an edge over lesser competitors from other companies/genres (sorry Kirby fans, but that's what he is). Despite that rule of thumb, he still found a way to lose to Kirby. This shows how the "other" FFs (1-6 and Tactics) have more of a niche fanbase than anything.) Still, it's surprising, as Jill, 2002's Kirby-killer, was shown not to be that strong, first by Link, then by Squall.

Yuna (W9): With Auron sending Tails back to school, many people expected Yuna to beat Knuckles, though not with the same ease. The match not only proved that Knuckles was superior to Tails, but also that Yuna was ages behind Auron. FFX-2 didn't even seem to help Yuna turn the tide, as normally games that aren't out won't do that. But, if it did, thank god it was there, or it would have been a slaughter.

NEXT: ROUND 2 OVERVIEW
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Summer 2003 Contest: Slowflake (CAN) . . . . . 29/31, 0 lost . . . . . T-68 (236-way)
Today's pick: Megaman

From: cyko | Posted: 8/1/2003 7:33:18 PM | Message Detail

cyko's Match 32 Review

Megaman vs. Mr. Resetti

and round one ends with one dead mole. at 7:30, Megaman has about 89% with a 70000 vote lead. it's another commanding victory for the blue bomber, but not the biggest blowout of all time that some expected. but an unimpressive victory? come on, Slowflake, Megaman is on pace to the third character to break 90000 votes and probably score the second or third biggest blowout so far this year. some people just like angry moles, i guess.

cyko's Match 33 Preview

(1) Link vs. (9) Fox McCloud

and round two begins the same way round one did- with a huge blowout. *yawn* i can relax and wait for things to heat up on sunday. Fox scored a decent victory over Pikachu, but Link is Link. i predict that over 90% also predicted this match right, also.

prediction: Link by a heck of a lot (90-92%)

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Currently a fan of these Summer2K3 characters:
Magus, Cloud, Zero, Bowser, Kefka, Sephiroth and Mr. Resetti

From: cyko | Posted: 8/1/2003 7:46:45 PM | Message Detail

Cyko, are you THAT impatient to wait until Mega Man vs. Mr. Resetti was over to go and post those top 10 lists? =p (End of R1 is kind of a nice place to end) Very informative lists...it makes Bowser look like he's really something. I want to believe that he can beat Cloud. :[

lol, don't worry Haste2, i'll post one specifically for the end of round one. i just wanted to get it in now because i had been doing it every other day.

and Slowflake- i enjoy your winners and losers, but how can you forget about Zero in the winners column? he pulled what will be the 13th highest vote total (including Megaman and Zelda) against a tough opponent, even scoring an upset with the brackets; all in his first tournament match. he made an impressive showing. i look forward to your overviews and more of your opinions.

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Currently a fan of these Summer2K3 characters:
Magus, Cloud, Zero, Bowser, Kefka, Sephiroth and Mr. Resetti

From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/1/2003 8:26:16 PM | Message Detail

ROUND 2 OVERVIEW

Link vs. Fox: Pretty boring match. Link will have the Nintendo support almost unanimously, and the rest will also support Link massively, except joke voters and anti-repeat people, which are overestimated anyway.
Prediction: Link with 83%

Ganondorf vs. Magus: I don't see why there's actually doubt in the outcome of this match. Magus is certainly more popular than Tidus... there's no way Ganondorf gets to Link.
Prediction: Magus with 58%

Squall vs. Luigi: Another match where I don't understand the hype. Luigi is ages ahead of Jill, and even if he's no Snake, he should take the cake here.
Prediction: Luigi with 57%

KOS-MOS vs. Samus: A lot of board support for KOSsy, but she didn't beat up Crash by enough to be considered a match. She's better than Isaac though, that's for sure.
Prediction: Samus with 65%

Cloud vs. Auron: Square civil war, part one. Auron's the most popular of the FF10 cast, but he's no match against an icon like Cloud. Still, I expect the vote to be split between Square lovers, and Cloud haters might have their word to say too.
Prediction: Cloud with 63%

Bowser vs. Yoshi: The first interesting match of round 1. Remember that PotD I talked about in the Winners And Losers article? Here's where it can come into play. Mario fans, who constitute approximately half of the GameFAQs population, will probably vote massively for Yoshi, and the rest will be split, with perhaps a slight advantage to Bowser due to SMRPG. Still, I think a lot of people who voted for Yoshi and Bowser in round 1 will turn to Yoshi.
Prediction: Yoshi with 53%

Aeris vs. Master Chief: After getting almost beat by Felix, if you think MC can take out Aeris, you need brain surgery. IMMEDIATELY.
Prediction: Aeris with 74%

Zero vs. Sonic: Zero wasn't in the Winners list for nothing (that's for you Cyko)... if something, his opponent was equal or slightly weaker than Sonic's, with what we saw of Scorpion and Ken against top-tier characters (Ken fared a bit better IMO). Sonic will take it without that much trouble.
Prediction: Sonic with 56%
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Summer 2003 Contest: Slowflake (CAN) . . . . . 29/31, 0 lost . . . . . T-68 (236-way)
Today's pick: Megaman

From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/1/2003 8:26:47 PM | Message Detail

Mario vs. Shadow: This reminds me of Mario vs. Morrigan. Some crazy people who think Mario will actually go down... and it ends in a blowout. Granted, Shadow's more popular than Morrigan, but Mario also seems stronger than last year. I can see Shadow bringing down Mario's percentage to a critical point (like 60%), but not winning.
Prediction: Mario with 65%

Kefka vs. Crono: With Kefka's ridiculous performance against Pac-Man, a close match is out of the question. Over and out.
Prediction: Crono with 76%

Alucard vs. Kirby: This has been said many times... Alucard was better than Jill against Bomberman. With the difference between Kirby and Jill, and the one between Jill and Alucard, Kirby has a tough cliff to climb.
Prediction: Alucard with 58%

Max Payne vs. Sephiroth: Max Payne was slaughtered by Scorpion. Raziel narrowly lost to Strider. Scorpion and Strider had similar scores against Link. I rest my case. Raziel > Max Payne.
Prediction: Sephiroth with 87%

Snake vs. Knuckles: We already saw that one. No reason why the winner (and the percentages) shouldn't remain the same.
Prediction: Snake with 60%

Ryu vs. Dante: Another good match. I explained why I think Dante won't quite match Ryu in Winners and Losers... big fanbase, but not loyal enough.
Prediction: Ryu with 54%

DK vs. Vercetti: Before Vercetti's match, it was a no-brainer. Not anymore. Still, SoA's sales apparently are nowhere near Parasite Eve's, which could partly explain DK's good performance, that and there's what I said about Gamecube vs. Gamecube not being as good a measuring stick as PS2 vs. PS2. Therefore, Vercetti will barely break through.
Prediction: Vercetti with 53%

Zelda vs. Megaman: Zelda creamed Lara bad, but not as bad as Crono. And if you're not to Crono's level, you're screwed against Megaman.
Prediction: Megaman with 65%
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Summer 2003 Contest: Slowflake (CAN) . . . . . 29/31, 0 lost . . . . . T-68 (236-way)
Today's pick: Megaman

From: CapnAmerica | Posted: 8/1/2003 9:00:29 PM | Message Detail

How many errors do you think the winner will have this year?
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From: MMXcalibur | Posted: 8/1/2003 10:13:23 PM | Message Detail

Good read all over, Slowflake, Round 2 preview and Round 1 IN REVIEW.

I enjoyed reading who were the REAL winners and losers of Round 1 and why. Y'know, despite Conker being a loser in the contest....he's still a winner...YES HE IS, YES HE IS!
XD

Anyway, keep up the good work.
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MEGA MAN RD.2: vs Zelda
(1)Link vs (9)Fox McCloud (29/32 pts.)

From: solarshadow | Posted: 8/1/2003 11:26:59 PM | Message Detail

Good stuff Slowflake, as usual. Do you want those percentage predictions entered in the Oracle Challenge?

Now, why was the Lara/Zelda match so popular? Second highest vote total! I had to double check that three times when updating the Top 10 lists (I guess that's "quadruple check"). It wasn't even all that close.

So, how's everyone doing compared to last year? I've got 29 points (thanks to Squall, Shadow, and Knuckles) at the end of the first round. Last year I also had 29 points, so not much has really changed. I just hope my later round predictions are a bit better this year.
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Contest Stats: http://solarshadow-stats.tripod.com

From: Haste2 | Posted: 8/2/2003 12:43:38 AM | Message Detail

solarshadow, I have 30 points with all the same picks as you except with Knuckles winning.

I have some top 10 lists that apply to Round 1 over the past 2 years. Look at the bolded names to find the winners if you forgot...but it's obvious which characters won in 2 of those lists.

Top 10 Easiest to Predict Matches
1. Link vs. AiAi- 99. 12% [of the brackets correct]
2. Mario vs. Captain Olimar - 97.99%
3. Link vs. Little Mac - 96.39%
4. Mario vs. Servbot - 95.87%
5. Mega Man vs. Mr. Resetti - 95.61%
6. Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Pitfall Harry - 95.59%
7. Cloud Strife vs. CATS - 94.91%
8. Donkey Kong vs. Bub - 94.18%
9. Mega Man vs. Ms. Pac-Man - 94.08%
10. Sephiroth vs. Raziel - 93.91%

Top 10 Toughest to Predict Matches
1. Wario vs. Shadow the Hedgehog - 42.11% [of the brackets correct]
2. Spyro the Dragon vs. Morrigan Aensland - 42.28%
3. KOS-MOS vs. Crash Bandicoot - 42.45%
4. Pac-Man vs. Kefka - 43.47%
5. Gordon Freeman vs. Tina Armstrong - 43.71%
6. Zero vs. Scorpion - 47.28%
7. Tidus vs. Ganondorf - 47.72%
8. Knuckles the Echidna vs. Yuna - 50.22%
9. Abe vs. Kyo Kusanagi - 50.51%
10. Jill Valentine vs. Kirby - 50.77%

Top 10 Biggest Blowouts
1. Mega Man vs. Ms. Pac-Man - 92.30%
2. Link vs. AiAi - 91.35%
3. Mega Man vs. Mr. Resetti - 88.96%
4. Mario vs. Captain Olimar - 88.42%
5. Sephiroth vs. Gabe Logan - 87.71%
6. Cloud Strife vs. CATS - 86.91%
7. Crono vs. Tom Nook - 85.91%
8. Link vs. Little Mac - 84.31%
9. Solid Snake vs. Raiden - 82.88%
10. Sonic the Hedgehog vs. Pitfall Harry - 82.44%

Top 10 Closest Matches
1. Tidus vs. Ganondorf - 50.68%
2. Pac-Man vs. Kefka - 50.95%
3. Strider Hiryu vs. Raziel - 52. 57%
4. Master Chief vs. Felix - 52.96%
5. Jill Valentine vs. Kirby - 53. 34%
6. Gordon Freeman vs. Max Payne - 53.99%
7. Alucard vs. Miles "Tails" Prower - 54.32%
8. Pikachu vs. PaRappa the Rapper - 54.41%
9. Knuckles the Echidna vs. Yuna - 55.32%
10. Tidus vs. Claire Redfield -55.46%

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From: Who Cares? | Posted: 8/2/2003 12:47:03 AM | Message Detail

Right now I’m sitting with three losses (Squall, Master Chief, & Knuckles are to blame) But all
and all, I feel good about my bracket.

My turn to do some number crunching! :) Well ,with the completion of this year’s first round, I
was kind of curious if the first round performances by characters in certain seed positions had
some significance in the later matches, as well as how easy it is to pick an upset. Anyway here’s
some of the first round matchup stats from both years going by seeds...

Seed # -- Avg Vote Count – Pct of Vote – # of Wins (from largest to smallest Pct)

1 ---- 67,407 -- 82.73% -- 8
16 -- 14,069 -- 17.27% -- 0

2 ---- 66,779 -- 76.24% -- 8
15 -- 20,814 -- 23.76% -- 0

4 ---- 51,718 -- 68.73% -- 7
13 -- 23,533 -- 31.27% -- 1

5 ---- 49,620 -- 61.31% -- 5
12 -- 31,310 -- 38.69% -- 3

3 ---- 47,042 -- 59.06% -- 7
14 -- 32,616 -- 40.94% -- 1

7 ---- 48,708 -- 58.74% -- 6
10 -- 34,213 -- 41.26% -- 2

6 ---- 46,057 -- 58.69% -- 6
11 -- 32,420 -- 41.31% -- 2

8 ---- 38,721 -- 48.10% -- 4
9 ---- 41,778 -- 51.90% -- 4

Avg Margin of Victory (from largest to smallest)

1 v 16 - 53,339

2 v 15 - 45,965

4 v 13 - 35,618

6 v 11 - 25,659

5 v 12 - 23,325

7 v 10 - 23,317

8 v 9 - 21,304

3 v 14 - 17,237

OBSERVATIONS
As expected, 1 vs 16 & 2 vs 15 matches are the most lopsided and 8 vs 9 are closest, but there
are some very interesting things about this list. As pointed out by Snowflake earlier, 3 seeds
seem to be the weakest of the higher seeded characters. They manage only the 6th highest vote
count, and have only the 5th best percentage of the vote. Of course the biggest thing is that their
matchup with 14 seeds is the smallest margin of victory. I think this a case of characters that are
just seeded too high, because except for Gordon losing to Tina, all of these characters survive
their first round match, but clearly don’t have enough to survive.

And to point out NT220's comments, 5 seeds have been overachievers, with the 4th best vote
count & percentage of votes. Last year all 5 seeds that survived their first round matches (Crono,
Scorpion, & Samus) all made it to the Elite 8 by taking out a 1 seed in the process, so 5 seeds
seem to be the most favorable position...but so does the 12 seed. Outside of the 9 seed, no other
lower seeded characters have put up more victories than 12s. Last year Aya beat Terry & this
year Kefka beat Pac-Man, and Ganondorf took out Tidus. Aya lost the next round, but put up a
fight against DK, & if Ganondorf & Kefka share the same fate, they will put up a fight as
well, so if we do have more GCBs in the future 5 vs 12 matchups may be the ones to watch.

While the 8 v 9 matchups appear to be pretty close (4 wins each & separated by 3%), these stats
are somewhat misleading. The closest match we’ve ever seen from an 8 v 9 match was Tidus v
Claire, which was separated by about 7000 votes. And as their margin of victory suggests, all
these characters have been doing is taking turns blowing each other out. Though it does spark a
little hype with them facing off against a 1 seed. (Morrigan vs Mario, Sonic v Tidus, Cloud v
Auron, too name a few)

One other little tidbit is that Aeris is so far the only 11 seed to post victories in the entire GCB.

Phew, didn’t realize I typed so much, anyway take a gander yourself and feel free to comment.

From: Who Cares? | Posted: 8/2/2003 1:03:12 AM | Message Detail

Oh, and now after reading Haste2's stats, I have to disagree with Slowflake's dissapointment comment on Mega Man. True we were all expecting a bigger blowout than this, but scoring the 3rd largest blowout in GCB history & the 2nd largest this year, only behind Link, is FAR from dissapointing. What would have been dissapointing is if Mega Man did so poorly that it would leave a door open for the DK/Vercetti winner, like 75% or worse.

From: Team Rocket Elite | Posted: 8/2/2003 1:09:40 AM | Message Detail

Actually it was the 4th largest in GCB history. Number 1 and 2 were Megaman's first and second round battles last year. Number three was Link's Round 1 battle this year.
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From: cyko | Posted: 8/2/2003 12:25:17 PM | Message Detail

as promised, here's where this year's round one finishes up:

Top 10 Vote Getters

1. Cloud Strife- 94086
2. Link- 92998
3. Megaman- 91905
4. Sephiroth- 90364
5. Mario- 89189
6. Crono- 88469
7. Solid Snake- 84638
8. Samus Aran- 81123
9. Bowser- 74164
10. Dante- 74068

Top 10 Most Pathetic Characters (Least Votes)

1. Aiai- 8802
2. Mr. Resetti- 11400
3. Captain Olimar- 11678
4. CATS- 14168
5. Tom Nook- 14631
6. Raiden- 17480
7. Raziel- 19838
8. Ryo Hazuki- 21316
9. Ratchet- 24099
10. Ness- 24627

Top 10 Blowouts (Biggest Vote Difference)

1. Link over Aiai- 84196
2. Megaman over Mr. Resetti- 80505
3. Cloud over Cats- 79918
4. Mario over Captain Olimar- 77511
5. Crono over Tom Nook- 73838
6. Sephiroth over Raziel- 70526
7. Solid Snake over Raiden- 67158
8. Samus over Isaac- 54563
9. Dante over Ryo Hazuki- 53752
10. Bowser over Ness- 49537

Top 10 Closest Matches

1. Ganondorf over Tidus- 1582
2. Kefka over Pac-Man- 1773
3. Master Chief over Felix- 6318
4. Max Payne over Gordon Freeman- 7284
5. Knuckles over Yuna- 10832
6. Kirby over Ramza- 15380
7. Squall over Jill- 19118
8. Zelda over Lara Croft- 21701
9. KOS-MOS over Crash Bandicoot- 23631
10. Donkey Kong over Vyse- 24284

Top 10 Most Impressive Losers

1. Tidus- 57078
2. Felix- 50231
3. Lara Croft- 49240
4. Pac-Man- 45905
5. Yuna- 45531
6. Ramza- 42482
7. Gordon Freeman- 41997
8. Scorpion- 41916
9. Tails- 38685
10. Jill Valentine- 38274

Top 10 Least Impressive Winners

1. Kefka- 47678
2. Max Payne- 49281
3. Knuckles- 56363
4. Master Chief- 56549
5. Squall- 57392
6. Kirby 57862
7. Ganondorf- 58660
8. Magus- 60598
9. Donkey Kong- 61027
10. KOS-MOS- 61141

Top 10 Biggest Vote Totals

1. Tidus vs. Ganondorf- 115738
2. Lara Croft vs. Zelda- 113881
3. Zero vs. Scorpion- 112801
4. Sephiroth vs. Raziel- 110202
5. Auron vs. Tails- 108884
6. Cloud vs. CATS- 108254
7. Samus vs. Isaac- 107683
8. Master Chief vs. Felix- 106780
9. Sonic vs. Ken- 106630
10. Wario vs. Shadow the Hedgehog- 104607

Top 10 Smallest Vote Totals

1. Gordon Freeman vs. Max Payne- 91278
2. Sam Fisher vs. Magus- 91464
3. Yoshi vs. Conker- 92418
4. Pac-Man vs. Kefka- 93583
5. Luigi vs. Ratchet- 94649
6. Dante vs. Ryo Hazuki- 95384
7. Squall vs. Jill Valentine- 95666
8. Ryu vs. Duke Nukem- 96408
9. Donkey Kong vs. Vyse- 97770
10. Sora vs. Aeris- 97810

Top 10 Easiest Matches to Pick (Based on Number of Correct Contest Entries)

1. Link vs. Aiai- 99.1%
2. Mario vs. Captain Olimar- 98.0%
3. Megaman vs. Mr. Resetti- 95.6%
4. Cloud vs. CATS- 94.9%
5. Sephiroth vs. Raziel- 93.9%
6. Samus vs. Isaac- 93.8%
7. Crono vs. Tom Nook- 92.8%
8. Solid Snake vs. Raiden- 92.6%
9. Luigi vs. Ratchet- 87.9%
10. Donkey Kong vs. Vyse- 87.7%

Top 10 Hardest Matches to Pick

1. Wario vs. Shadow the Hedgehog- 42.1%
2. KOS-MOS vs. Crash Bandicoot- 42.5%
3. Pac-Man vs. Kefka- 43.5%
4. Zero vs. Scorpion- 47.3%
5. Tidus vs. Ganondorf- 47.7%
6. Knuckles vs. Yuna- 50.2%
7. Sam Fisher vs. Magus- 56.9%
8. Pikachu vs. Fox McCloud- 57.4%
9. Auron vs. Tails- 60.7%
10. Lara Croft vs. Zelda- 61.7%

and i end round one at 29/32 thanks to Yuna, Wario, and Pikachu (>_< why didn't i get around to changing that one like i wanted to?).

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Currently a fan of these Summer2K3 characters:
Magus, Cloud, Zero, Bowser, Kefka, Sephiroth and Mr. Resetti

From: Slowflake | Posted: 8/2/2003 12:33:28 PM | Message Detail

Do you want those percentage predictions entered in the Oracle Challenge?

No thanks... if I wanted to enter, I'd put more precise percentages. I just wanted to give an approximative idea of how I thought the matches would turn out. Though I seemed spot on with today's match... could it be Sephiroth/Raziel all over again?

My god, this is my 57th post on this topic. My active messages will take a nosedive when this is purged...

(Off-topic: My brother rented Wind Waker today, and it looks awesome. No kidding.)
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Summer 2003 Contest: Slowflake (CAN) . . . . . 30/32, 0 lost . . . . . T-68 (284-way)
Today's pick: Link over Fox

From: Mastermind2k | Posted: 8/2/2003 12:59:16 PM | Message Detail

Hey solar, I hope it's okay I linked to you from my site.

Keep up the good work!
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